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Tseng listened as Hojo explained his research, and wasn't surprised when he was asked for samples. "I don't see any harm in that." Tseng had never really been "afraid" of Hojo like most were. He saw a man dedicated to his research, even if he was a bit over the top with it all. Then again, there were things Tseng had done in his life that could make people think the same about himself. They were just two people who did their job, through any means necessary.
Chuckling lightly at the mention of Hollander, Tseng couldn't help but remember when he first started as a Turk, after his training of course. The two scientists seemed to have the same goals, but different approaches to get results. At least, that's what Tseng grasped from it all. To be fair, the Turks and the science department didn't associate much. They didn't really have a need to. While Hojo and Hollander made advancements for Shinra, the Turks did the dirty work behind the scenes. Occasionally, they would bring anything they found useful to the men in white, but that was really about it.
"So I've noticed." This world had very few similiarities to Gaia, and that was not something Tseng was looking forward to. He was used to relying on information, physical altercations and revenge. Though he had not been here long, he saw none of that. There wasn't a dedicated company or boss making the decisions, which meant there was no one going after them either. There didn't seem to be any conflict here, and that was troubling to Tseng. That either meant this was a peaceful place, or things were happening in secret. He was going to find out which.
"You know me well, Doctor." A smirk on his face, Tseng was glad to be chatting with Hojo, someone who did know him. In ways he really wasn't proud of, but that was the downfall of being a Turk. Injuries that were hard to heal and hard to explain. "I would never do such a thing." He was quite fond of the currency here. In a way, it made him feel like the little he had here was far more than the lot he had on Gaia.
For Tseng's quick agreement to donating to the genetic comparison research, Hojo jots on the paper to adjust the prices down by 5%. A loss in the long run for himself but in this world Hojo has to encourage positive feelings towards him. A discount no matter how slight will help that.
"A pity that the lab space here wouldn't allow a continuation of our previous arrangements. To say nothing of the undue attention it would bring." It still chafes at the man.
This world has the inherent dangers of roaming monsters just as their own. Unlike their world, this one is... not quite peaceful but the lack of active warfare between places is genuinely baffling. Even trade is less cutthroat than anything Shinra employees were familiar with. Humans are casually cruel and violent to each other and to the planet. This is a truth that Hojo knows well. The supposed peace goes against everything he knows and believes in: the worst of humanity and how people easily fall to their cruelest states given first chance. The closest he's heard of such thing was from the occasional person from a world yet further from this and theirs. Rumblings of worlds with empires and kingdoms, of lands that sound the stuff of ancient legends. Islands in the sky and castles beneath the sea. Twinned planets, books that house monsters, and ghosts that collectively inhabit objects to reap the living.
If any of that has leaked to this world then there is even less reason to journey outside the city for a man accustomed to the protection and power of being a Director. One cannot do research if they are dead. In theory. There is the question of how this world's Lifestream, if it possesses one, would react to a man not born to it dying.
Tseng's sly assurance does very little to reassure the 'good' doctor and Tseng must know this of the 'neurotic mess of complexes' (as Subject S would disclaim). Hojo shoots the Turk a disgusted frown before biting out a bitter retort. "One should hope I know you. One does not take a Turk lightly. If Shinra's a kennel where the SOLDIERs are guard dogs and sheepdogs, the Turks are are birddogs flushing out prey and tearing open their throats. Both are highly trained even if there is the apptitude already there, but one wrong bark and your owner... ... Hmm. The comparison falls apart when you reach certain departments. Although it does make Scarlet more bluntly a bitch."
"In any case..." Hojo recollects himself. "Is there anything else? You have my contact information but I will need yours. Furthermore, I will need to collect your sample now and collect data on your physical baseline. Your files aren't here and I do not have it all memorized. If anyone from Gaia appears and you spot them first, you should forward them to this clinic. More points of comparison... You'll have to anyway if they are a Turk."
At Hojo's comment, Tseng gave a nod. "A pity indeed. It seems we have our work cut out for us if we want to get back to what we are used to." Tseng himself wasn't really a man of change. He wasn't about to learn anything new, or settle for just anything. He knew what he was good at and was going to keep doing it. It was going to take just a bit longer here since he didn't know anyone or where anything was, but if he put his mind to it, he would get it done. Promise.
Tseng had to admit, he had been thrown off guard when he first arrived in Zephon. Though he had expected to die at some point in his life, if that's what happened to him on Gaia, he didn't expect to be placed in a whole new world. After getting his bearings together, he made his way to the nearest town. Sitting in cafes, book stores and other populated places was what he started with, acting like he was minding his own business when really he was listening to everything going on around him. Though, so far, he hadn't been able to pick up on anything interesting. There were still many places to go and people to meet.
Speaking of throwing Tseng off guard, he honestly wasn't expecting Hojo to talk so highly of the Turks. Not that Tseng though Hojo disliked them or anything. "You flatter me sir, I just did what was asked of me." That was something else that Tseng had to get used to. There wasn't anyone giving him tasks to do anymore. He was on his own now. Well, it had kind of been like that after Rufus took over anyways, but now it was official and he had full reign of what he could do. The remark about Scarlet was not missed by Tseng and he gave soft chuckle in agreement.
At the talk of contact information, Tseng took a notepad out of his chest pocket and wrote down his cell number. "I do not have a permanent place of residence yet, but here is how you can get a hold of me. What would like me to give?" He wasn't quite sure if he would need urine or blood, but he would need the proper equipment to do any of that anyways. "I'm sure they'll be eager to see you." The Turks might be, but he wasn't sure about anyone else he might run into...
Hojo listens with half an ear as he quickly tallies up the time and requirements for the necessary procedures. He will have to tell the secretary to move his next appointment an hour just in case but collecting the samples will be a simple affair. For anything more intrusive like bone fragments...
He casts a considering glance at the Turk. There really is nothing stopping Hojo from doing anything more. But then it would only take one concerned bout of womanly attention and that useful fool at the desk will scream and call the guards and things will only continue to escalate from there... He could paint the whole thing as the Turk's fault. But too much bother for a specimen that won't be as interesting as any of the new creatures currently wandering about in this world. If the Turk had been something else he would be more honestly tempted. But the lost of willing research subjects and a centralized location would be a waste. So Hojo simply pockets the scrap of notepad and nods.
"What I need from you is nothing more than I have already collected from myself. Hair, nails, saliva, urine, stool, blood, gametes, skin. Ideally also red bone marrow and a bone fragment. Were you expecting me to say a piece of your liver and a kidney?" A mocking grin is stretched across the man's face, a few shades lighter than the post-Nibelheim maniacal leering. Hojo never was sane but he's not exactly as bad as he would've become after losing his prize specimen.
"I suppose being here is making me more... appreciative of how competent certain factions within the company were. The lack of anything resembling competence or interesting in my field here is galling. There is very little interest in medical research but a large fascination with thaumatic energy manipulation." He refuses to call magic magic as it must have some source. Materia had a source. Magic would mean something mysterious and inexplicable. "Some back in Midgar as bad as Palmer, others while wasteful still yielded results."
"Your group had its faults..." Many in Hojo's eyes, the main ones being hiring Valentine in the first place and then and sending him on his own to serve as protection detail. In an isolated location. With no one reminding him not to get involved in the personal lives of those he was supposed to be watching. "... but generally more useful than the other sections of Public Safety." In Hojo's mouth the words Public Safety became a joke. And it was, as the only thing the public was made safe from was by sheer coincidence of living within the Tower's range and even that didn't fully extend to the Slums. When you have an army claimed under the title of Security... A company becoming a nation in all but name was an interesting way of dodging all the pesky rules expected out of an actual governmental body. "With them all you need is the ability to follow simple orders and execute them. The organization was menial work for an incredible work of science like Subject S but perfect for the vast horde of research material that willingly signed away their lives and bodies to the company." It still baffles him as to why people willingly join SOLDIER but he appreciated the variety of subjects for J-Cell exposure. Even if the prime subject is leaps and bounds ahead in quality and skill, lesser subjects are useful for data and testing for things that he shouldn't risk his masterwork on.
"The overgrown brat's insistence on honor is nothing more than justifying his own overblown sense of pride and the things he chooses to do under orders. But I suppose that is what happens when a subject is raised thinking it is more than what it really is. My creation doesn't need any any such justifications and both of Hollander's think far too highly of themselves." To that end, he can respect the Turks. They never claimed to be anything moral or just... or rather he never saw one that claimed or acted in such a way. Hojo doesn't bother paying attention to their members unless they intrude on his person or domain.
But Hojo can never take either products of Project G seriously. Both are monsters made from JENOVA infused human flesh. Both claim to be more than monsters. Both act the same as any fool dumb enough to sign up for SOLDIER. One is a vainglorious idiot who thinks he is more intelligent than he is; and he is more intelligent than most SOLDIERS but his obsession with that useless dreck is a waste of everyone's time. The other... Hojo already said his piece on what he thinks of that supposed 'honor'. Honor among SOLDIERS is nothing more than loyalty to a paycheck and the blind will to do anything commanded.
Hojo steps out of the room without warning to tell... right, her name was Margret. "Can you move the 3:40 appointment to 6:50?" Without checking back for a confirmation, Hojo quickly walks to the room where he left Tseng. "We can begin biological specimen samples. As I said: hair, nails, saliva, urine, stool, blood, gametes, skin. In total nothing more than a quick trim here and there and spending a little time in the bathroom. The bone marrow can be done with a local anesthesia. Bone fragment... I suppose I could simply collect a tooth and perform a curative to regenerate it. Molar would make it less obvious..."
Hojo explained what he would need and Tseng nodded. It wasn't a surprise to the Turk of what Hojo needed from him, and he had volunteered to do it knowing that fact as well. A small smile crossed Tseng's face. "Well we don't seem to be in a lab of any sort, so it was safe to assume those options would not factor into this." Tseng probably wouldn't even say no to those, as you only really need on kidney, and the liver can regenerate itself. Though healing from that was something Tseng wouldn't look forward to.
"How does that saying go? 'You don't appreciate what you have until it's gone', or something like that. We didn't realize that we were well off at Shinra. Pity. Starting from scratch isn't all bad, once you have the resources." Palmer was one of the directors Tseng had never really met, and he wasn't really sure why he even had his own department, so Tseng just gave a nod.
At the mention of his Turks, Tseng raised an eyebrow. He listened as he talked about the Public Safety department, lips pursed. It wasn't a surprise that someone from the medical department wasn't keen on the department that was based on physical force and combat to solve problems. "To each their own." Tseng knew Hojo was dedicated to his research, and that was why he was considered crazy by quite a lot of people. Tseng had met many people in his life, and also investigated many types of people as well.
Hojo mentioned someone who was insistent on honor, and Tseng had to assume that person was Angeal and he chuckled. He had never met the First Class SOLDIER in person, but heard he was actually the more level headed of them all. Genesis was smart, but yes, there was talk that he was a little full of himself and liked to recite 'Loveless' everywhere he went. The First Class SOLDIERs were definitely an assortment of personalities, but they seemed to make it work.
Moving his next appointment to a later time, Tseng had to smile a little bit at his persistance to get things done. "I'm afraid bone fragment might have to wait as I was not prepared for an extensive appointment." He wasn't going to give up a tooth, that was for sure. He knew Hojo knew that, and gave him a small smile to let him know he was kidding about the bigger stuff. Giving a small nod, Tseng headed into the bathroom. Within ten minutes, Tseng was back in the room. "I left the containers in there, will that be all?" That was the usual for appointments, right? Just leaving the container.
"Starting ex nihilo only works when you have the resources." Hojo mutters while the Turk finds amusement in some unknowable and worthless thing. Starting from nothing with nothing available to say nothing of a lack of connections positive or negative is an exercise in frustration. In science at any rate. Everything in academic type of work is built off of the work of those who came before. A Turk's work meanwhile relies on their prey being unaware of the true danger. So it makes sense that the man would feel more free having been freed from ShinRa, no matter what lipservice he offers to the appreciation of now-missing resources.
The madman had honestly not been expecting Tseng to still be willing with the sheer amount of material being given up. He had been rattling off more than he actually needed just to see how far the Turk would bend. And bend he did even if denied a piece of bone. Not that a tooth really would be worth as much as an actual piece of skeleton. That act would've been purely to cause Tseng annoyance and dread. The absence of a visible tooth would've been too obvious. It would had ruined the Turk's supposedly immaculate appeal to the moronic masses that he lies and tricks on a daily basis. And that, obviously, is not something Tseng would accept.
Other Turks might as their appearance is at times a calculated tool in different degrees. The ingénue, the slumrat, the intimidating thug, and so on. Much like characters in a play their appearance lets them sell whatever story they're playing at during the information gathering stage.
Hojo is finishing up Tseng's paperwork when the man emerges from the restroom. He carelessly waves the Turk off as though swatting at a particularly annoying fly. "Yes, yes. That will be all. You know where to find me, bar some manner of catastrophe befalling this backwater cesspit." Although... The 'doctor' pauses. A familiar maniacal gleam is in his eyes as he stares at the fellow 'ex'-ShinRa employee. "If you see a product of SOLDIER, of any rank, do send them my way. I may not be able to see the fruition of Project S but I will be able to confirm my theory with secondary specimen cells."
"Agreed." Tseng unfortuantely found himself here with nothing, so he could understand not having the proper resources. Yes, he was free from Shinra and what he was doing there, but with Tseng, that was all he knew. He had been trained most of life to be a Turk. If he wanted to do something else, he would have to learn something all over again. He was a quick learner, so that really wasn't a problem. He didn't want to though. He was good at what he did, so he wasn't about to change that anytime soon. He would just have to make it so he could do what he was best at.
An amused breath leaves Tseng at the doctors' response. The next thing he says doesn't surprise the Turk in the least. The continued pursuit of an experiment was something Tseng had to admire about the doctor. "I will drag them here if I have to." Which would be something most would not expect someone of Tseng's size to be able to do, but Tseng had a way of surprising people. Turning to leave, Tseng gave a small wave. "Until next time doctor." He gave the lady at the desk a wave as well as exited.
"Until the next time you find it necessary to show up unannounced." Hojo agrees as he begins to clean up and find places for the newly collected material. Not that he needed to say anything further to Tseng when now Hojo has everything he needs right here. Everything except the resources ShinRa provided. Benefits and detriments to every situation, naturally.
Such as how it is good to know that he is not the only one from the same world in this new one but it does bring up so many questions.
Who else? By what metric were they selected, presuming there is a mind behind this situation? Why at clearly different points in time given the Turk's altered appearance and demeanor? Is it an isolated instance? If so, are they from forked time-streams given the fact that Tseng seemed somewhat surprised? Was the surprise that Hojo was here or was the surprise that Hojo was not the age he 'should' be? What became of Subject S without him? Did some idiot give his projects over to Hollander?
There's no possible way that Hollander was involved in this... change of venue. After all Hollander's only successes are by complete accident. But if Hollander was involved with heading anything important in ShinRa then the company was doomed.
Hojo finishes labeling everything before approaching the fool of a secretary. "Call me when the next appointment arrives. I'll be in my office." And with that he tries to shove all thought of the Turk's words aside in favor of a quick meal and then writing down what he can remember of the man's biological data.